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I"m starting with oolongs again today. Since they take a little more work, I find it helps to drink them when I’m fresh.

This one looks pretty green, but in the tin it smells like I’m putting my nose into a food seasoning of some kind. There’s a salty, spicy note. Having just made it through Thanksgiving, I want to say it’s sage.

After rinsing and doing a first steep in the gaiwan at 15 sec, though, there’s nothing of that in the aroma or flavor. The tea is pale yellow with a green tinge.

I didn’t get a lot of flavor out of the first steep. I got some floral notes and some buttery ones, but it didn’t really pop. The leaves pretty much completely unfurled after the first steep. And yes, here I get a pineapple note! It’s a sort of a strange thing but it’s there in both the aroma and the flavor.

The third steep continues the pineapple note and it’s with this steep that I understand the reference to a honey note. Though the tea is a pale yellow which makes me somehow expect it not to generate a honey note, it does. I’m also getting a slight marine note here. There’s a sugary smell left in the cup after the tea is gone.

By the fourth steep, the color is different. It’s a more intense, lemon yellow color. The flavor is similar to that of the third steep. The tea is a bit drying to the mouth.

This is definitely different from other greener oolongs that I’ve had. While I can’t say I like it as much as some of the more floral, more buttery ones, or yesterday’s milk oolong, it’s a refreshing change of pace. Some day when I whittle my stash down will I keep a Forever Spring oolong in it?

Not sure yet. This is the first one I’ve had so I’m rating it rather conservatively in the very good column. It’s a rating that is subject to revision with further thought and perhaps something else of this type to compare it to.

Flavors: Butter, Floral, Honey, Marine, Pineapple, Sage, Sugar

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Leafhopper

In case you’re not obsessed with Taiwanese tea like I am, another name for this oolong is Four Seasons, and most of them are inexpensive, floral, and easy to drink. They also tend not to give too many steeps. I keep a couple on hand for those days when I can’t be bothered appreciating something complex.

__Morgana__

That’s funny because they seem to be the opposite things (four seasons, one season that lasts forever). And no, I didn’t know that. That puts a whole new lens on this. I know I have had Four Seasons before. Thanks for that!

Leafhopper

I think the idea is that multiple harvests make it “forever spring,” no matter the time of year. Also regarding your milk oolong saga, some of them are made from the natural Jin Xuan varietal, while others are artificially scented with milk. The Jin Xuans tend to be more creamy and floral as opposed to straight-up butter/milk. Sorry, end of rant. :)

__Morgana__

No, this is great, thanks! Very helpful. I am still learning after all this time. Sometimes I can’t hold on to all the info I have as the new pushes out the old more and more as I get older and have more and more thing pulling me in multiple directions, so I love hearing all of this. I’m a little scared by the artificial scenting. That sounds kind of gross to me. I have to look at the packet when I get home and see what is listed in the ingredients. The differences in my feelings about the three milk oolong I’ve had recently could be attributable to something as obvious as artificial flavoring!

Leafhopper

Lots of teas have artificial flavours added, so I don’t think it’s an issue healthwise. However, flavoured milk oolongs tend to be made from lower-quality tea and get overwhelmed by the flavouring agent. Definitely look at the packages to see what you’ve got. (Also, milk oolongs should be inexpensive. Even Alishan Jin Xuans, which are the high mountain version, are pretty affordable.)

Tea info also seems to go in one ear and out the other for me. You’re braver than I am for experimenting with puerh!

__Morgana__

Not worried about it for health or safety reasons or in general, just the idea of fake milk or butter grossed me out! PS there was nothing on the packet about flavoring, but it was just a sample so who knows.

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Leafhopper

In case you’re not obsessed with Taiwanese tea like I am, another name for this oolong is Four Seasons, and most of them are inexpensive, floral, and easy to drink. They also tend not to give too many steeps. I keep a couple on hand for those days when I can’t be bothered appreciating something complex.

__Morgana__

That’s funny because they seem to be the opposite things (four seasons, one season that lasts forever). And no, I didn’t know that. That puts a whole new lens on this. I know I have had Four Seasons before. Thanks for that!

Leafhopper

I think the idea is that multiple harvests make it “forever spring,” no matter the time of year. Also regarding your milk oolong saga, some of them are made from the natural Jin Xuan varietal, while others are artificially scented with milk. The Jin Xuans tend to be more creamy and floral as opposed to straight-up butter/milk. Sorry, end of rant. :)

__Morgana__

No, this is great, thanks! Very helpful. I am still learning after all this time. Sometimes I can’t hold on to all the info I have as the new pushes out the old more and more as I get older and have more and more thing pulling me in multiple directions, so I love hearing all of this. I’m a little scared by the artificial scenting. That sounds kind of gross to me. I have to look at the packet when I get home and see what is listed in the ingredients. The differences in my feelings about the three milk oolong I’ve had recently could be attributable to something as obvious as artificial flavoring!

Leafhopper

Lots of teas have artificial flavours added, so I don’t think it’s an issue healthwise. However, flavoured milk oolongs tend to be made from lower-quality tea and get overwhelmed by the flavouring agent. Definitely look at the packages to see what you’ve got. (Also, milk oolongs should be inexpensive. Even Alishan Jin Xuans, which are the high mountain version, are pretty affordable.)

Tea info also seems to go in one ear and out the other for me. You’re braver than I am for experimenting with puerh!

__Morgana__

Not worried about it for health or safety reasons or in general, just the idea of fake milk or butter grossed me out! PS there was nothing on the packet about flavoring, but it was just a sample so who knows.

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I got obsessed with tea in 2010 for a while, then other things intruded, then I cycled back to it. I seem to be continuing that in for a while, out for a while cycle. I have a short attention span, but no shortage of tea.

I’m a mom, writer, gamer, lawyer, reader, runner, traveler, and enjoyer of life, literature, art, music, thought and kindness, in no particular order. I write fantasy and science fiction under the name J. J. Roth.

Personal biases: I drink tea without additives. If a tea needs milk or sugar to improve its flavor, its unlikely I’ll rate it high. The exception is chai, which I drink with milk/sugar or substitute. Rooibos and honeybush were my gateway drugs, but as my tastes developed they became less appealing — I still enjoy nicely done blends. I do not mix well with tulsi or yerba mate, and savory teas are more often a miss than a hit with me. I used to hate hibiscus, but I’ve turned that corner. Licorice, not so much.

Since I find others’ rating legends helpful, I added my own. But I don’t really find myself hating most things I try.

I try to rate teas in relation to others of the same type, for example, Earl Greys against other Earl Greys. But if a tea rates very high with me, it’s a stand out against all other teas I’ve tried.

95-100 A once in a lifetime experience; the best there is

90-94 Excellent; first rate; top notch; really terrific; will definitely buy more

80-89 Very good; will likely buy more

70-79 Good; would enjoy again, might buy again

60-69 Okay; wouldn’t pass up if offered, but likely won’t buy again

Below 60 Meh, so-so, iffy, or ick. The lower the number, the closer to ick.

I don’t swap. It’s nothing personal, it’s just that I have way more tea than any one person needs and am not lacking for new things to try. Also, I have way too much going on already in daily life and the additional commitment to get packages to people adds to my already high stress level. (Maybe it shouldn’t, but it does.)

That said, I enjoy reading folks’ notes, talking about what I drink, and getting to “know” people virtually here on Steepster so I can get ideas of other things I might want to try if I can ever again justify buying more tea. I also like keeping track of what I drink and what I thought about it.

My current process for tea note generation is described in my note on this tea: https://steepster.com/teas/mariage-freres/6990-the-des-impressionnistes

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